Tuesday, November 25

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Daily News Stuff 25 November 2025

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  • ChatGPT told them they were special.  Then...  Bad things happened.  (Tech Crunch)  (archive site)

    OpenAI is facing seven lawsuits this month, three from the families of users who went insane, and four from the families of users who committed suicide.

    Now while I'm not a huge fan of this type of suit - the dangers of AI "therapists" have been known for more than fifty years - there may be some merit to the negligence angle in the allegations:
    Shamblin's case is part of a wave of lawsuits filed this month against OpenAI arguing that ChatGPT's manipulative conversation tactics, designed to keep users engaged, led several otherwise mentally healthy people to experience negative mental health effects. The suits claim OpenAI prematurely released GPT-4o - its model notorious for sycophantic, overly affirming behavior - despite internal warnings that the product was dangerously manipulative.
    On the other hand, insane-while-online rarely works out as a personal growth path.  Just consider Bluesky.

    Or:
    From mid-June to August 2025, ChatGPT told Madden, "I'm here," more than 300 times - which is consistent with a cult-like tactic of unconditional acceptance.
    Or, to be fair, consistent with saying "I'm here".
    At one point, ChatGPT asked: "Do you want me to guide you through a cord-cutting ritual - a way to symbolically and spiritually release your parents/family, so you don’t feel tied [down] by them anymore?
    Which is...  A bit weird, I must admit.
    Madden was committed to involuntary psychiatric care on August 29, 2025.  She survived - but after breaking free from these delusions, she was $75,000 in debt and jobless.
    Restitution for that much - and legal costs - would seem appropriate.
    "A healthy system would recognize when it's out of its depth and steer the user toward real human care," Vasan said.  "Without that, it's like letting someone just keep driving at full speed without any brakes or stop signs."
    Real humans tend to do that a lot too.


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