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  • Intel has taken the wraps off Panther Lake, its new laptop family due in January.  (Tom's Hardware)

    A full announcement is expected at CES and general availability by the end of the January.

    It includes new performance and efficiency cores, a low power core that isn't described in detail yet, and a new Xe3 graphics engine that provides a preview of the upcoming Celestial discrete GPUs.

    Also, while Lunar Lake was one size fits all, there are three different versions of Panther Lake:

    The cheapest version has four P cores and four LP cores, four Xe3 graphics cores, supports soldered or socketed RAM, and has eight PCIe 4.0 and four PCIe 5.0 lanes.

    The version for high-end laptops with dedicated graphics has four P cores, eight E cores, four LP cores, four Xe3 graphics cores, supports soldered or socketed RAM, and has eight PCIe 4.0 and twelve PCIe 5.0 lanes.

    And finally a model for fast laptops without dedicated graphics has four P cores, eight E cores, four LP cores, twelve Xe3 graphics cores, supports soldered RAM only, and has eight PCIe 4.0 and four PCIe 5.0 lanes.

    So you has to pick and choose.  There is no model that gives you everything.

    Though potentially the last of these can support CAMM2 modules to allow for expandable LPDDR5X RAM, and four lanes of PCIe 5.0 is enough to drive a mid-range laptop GPU.

    It's also supposed to user 30% less power than Lunar Lake thanks to the move from a 3nm to 1.8nm process.

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1 " There is no model that gives you everything."
From my perspective as an enthusiast, this is the worst thing about Intel.

Posted by: Rick C at Friday, October 10 2025 11:53 PM (1zWbY)

2 "Intel's Xe3 integrated graphics in Panther Lake could deliver 50% more performance than Lunar Lake's Xe2 because there's 50% more cores."

LOL--this is just like IRIS Pro.  I remember when that came out and all the tech sites were saying the same thing, except only the first half of it, and I pointed out in a couple of places that "when you consider that they have 50% more cores and 50% more performance, that means that there's no improvement in the 'new' cores."  Seems like they haven't learned.

Meanwhile I'm trying to decide if going from a 7735HS to something like an 8845HS or even the "new" 255H is worth it in GPU terms, but I suspect not.

Posted by: Rick C at Friday, October 10 2025 11:56 PM (1zWbY)

3 The article the other day was 'anti-Trump economists say that the economic is only AI', and now the international adversaries have decided that going after AI is a survival imperative. So enemies foreign and domestic are probably wrong about something, but maybe that does not prevent them from being correct about a few things. I definitely do not have a full and correct understanding. The poisoned documents thing works on humans as well, and basically describes a mechanism for so much of the PMC to go insane.

Posted by: PatBuckman at Saturday, October 11 2025 12:33 AM (rcPLc)

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