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Daily News Stuff 13 September 2023

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  • Intel has shown off its new Thunderbolt 5 controllers (though those won't actually arrive until next year) and announced details of the standard, most of which we already knew. (AnandTech)

    Also they lie about USB4, but what else is new?

    Thunderbolt 3 and 4 are the same speed - 40Gbps - and USB4 is based on Thunderbolt 3.

    Thunderbolt 5 doubles the speed to 80Gbps, and has a special mode for video where it can transfer 120Gbps in one direction and 40Gbps the other way. It has four lanes, and usually there's two in each direction, but if you're mainly using it in one direction it can dynamically configure itself as 3+1 instead of 2+2.

    With this you can run two 6k monitors from a single port.

    Other details I don't remember seeing previously are support for at least 140W power delivery, 64Gbps networking - though only really between two computers, since Thunderbolt network switches aren't a thing, and something welcome and a little surprising: It supports the new speeds on existing Thunderbolt 3 and 4 and USB 4 cables up to a distance of 1 metre.

    Beyond that you need active cables with tiny chips in them and those don't exist yet for Thunderbolt 5. The increased speeds are produced with the help of trinary encoding, while passive cables don't care that you're sending voltages of -1 / 0 / +1 instead of just 0 / 1, those tiny chips very much do.

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Disclaimer: Divided we stand, Unity must fall.

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1 Twitter embeds are broken, but it's not my fault.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at Wednesday, September 13 2023 05:49 PM (PiXy!)

2 Well, I hated google before it was cool.

Posted by: normal at Wednesday, September 13 2023 08:57 PM (obo9H)

3 Daily News Stuff 13 November 2023

Well, it is the ninth month, after all.

Posted by: normal at Wednesday, September 13 2023 11:06 PM (LADmw)

4 "But it has ray tracing."
According to the people who love ray tracing, ray tracing is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and everybody loves ray tracing, and if you don't loves ray tracing, there's probably something wrong with you.
I had a guy tell me that I didn't *really* like my RX 6800, and even though I play games at 1440p, I *ackshually* wanted a 4090, because it was a better card, and I was crazy not to want to spend 3-4 times as much, and if I was concerned about the 4090 using twice as much electricity, I could just downclock it and reduce the voltage so it didn't use 450W, and I must really only *think* I preferred the card I have because I have some kind of emotional attachment to AMD, or possibly an emotional problem.
And that was in a DM, after I told him in a forum I didn't want to discuss the matter any more!

Posted by: Rick C at Wednesday, September 13 2023 11:29 PM (BMUHC)

5 I was always allergic to gigantic frameworks. I work mostly with just plain SDL2 and an event loop.
I was also allergic to restrictive licenses for basic framework/libraries that are going to become the foundation of what you're building. If I'm going to pile years of my work on top of this thing, it better not be susceptible to rug-pulls. Even GPL weirds me out with the whole hostility to actually making money from software development, which is part of the entire point unless I *intend* to give it away.
Guess I'm vindicated?

Posted by: madrocketsci at Thursday, September 14 2023 05:16 AM (hRoyQ)

6 I guess Godot is the engine we've been waiting for.

Posted by: Cybernetic at Thursday, September 14 2023 06:09 AM (hwB54)

7 Someone had to say it.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at Thursday, September 14 2023 08:44 AM (PiXy!)

8 I've been using DDG for search for ages. But yesterday I finally had a disappointing result. I was searching for how to STOP Windows 10 from deleting uTorrent, and instead, just about every hit was how to remove it.

Posted by: Mauser at Thursday, September 14 2023 11:46 AM (BzEjn)

9 Mauser, did you try renaming the executable?  It might be dumb enough to work.

Posted by: Rick C at Thursday, September 14 2023 01:27 PM (BMUHC)

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