• Can Elon Musk save TikTok?  (The Verge)  (archive site)
  
  There is no reason to think that Elon Musk has the slightest inclination to buy TikTok, or that TikTok has any inclination to sell, or that China or the United States would allow this.
  
  
  
• The Ars Technica commentariat is having a complete meltdown at the mere idea that it might be possible.  (Ars Technica)
  
  It's kind of sad at this point.
  
  
  
• People are moving to Chinese spyware app RedNote ahead of the shutdown of Chinese spyware app TikTok.  (USA Today)
  
  RedNote is primarily in Mandarin, which none of them can read.  And it's available in China, unlike TikTok, so it's censored very aggressively.  Alphabet soup content gets you banned instantly.
  
  Also, the law that is set to ban TikTok applies equally to RedNote.

• Have fun with your AI-generated bugs.  (Bugsink)
  
  The bugs are generated automatically but it's up to you to fix them.  Good luck.
  
  
  
• Can AI models show us how people learn?  No.  (Quanta)

  It's not just a matter of quibbling about definitions. If language models really are learning language

  They're not.
  
  
  
• Microsoft has hiked Office prices by 45% in the Asia-Pacific region.  (The Register)
  
  Including Australia.  Thanks a bunch, Microsoft.
  
  
  
• OpenAI sometimes thinks in Chinese, and no-one knows why.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  Really?

  "[Labs like] OpenAI and Anthropic utilize [third-party] data labeling services for PhD-level reasoning data for science, math, and coding," Xiao wrote in a post on X. "[F]or expert labor availability and cost reasons, many of these data providers are based in China."

  Sounds like someone knows why.
  
  
  

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• The USB Implementor's Foum - USB-IF - has done something that isn't stupid for the first time in years: Cancelled all those version names you can't remember.  (PC World)
  
  Gone are USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 and USB4v2.
  
  Now it's just 5Gbps, 10Gbps, 20Gbps, 40Gbps, and 80Gbps.  Bigger numbers are better.
  
  When looking at cables, they are rated with both a speed and a maximum power - either 60W or 240W.  60W runs at 20V and 3A, while 240W runs at 48V and 5A.  You can always shift downwards, but running 5A over a 3A cable may not work out so well - or at all.
  

• This is a depressingly stupid article.  (Quanta)
  
  Key question capturing the idiocy:

  Do the properties of quarks and gluons resonate with you as a nonbinary person?
  
  Yes, I think the simple fact that gluons carry multiple color charges means they are fundamentally nonbinary creatures.

  Can it get any dumber?
  
  Silly question.  It can always get dumber.

  I am a physicist, but before that, I’m a person.  If someone wants to just chat physics with me, you can’t just get my physics, you also get the fact that I’m a trans person and hear about the environment I’m being asked to do my research in.

  That's okay.  I don't want to chat about anything with you, ever.
  
  
  
• Why AWS CEO Matt Garman is willing to bet the platform's future on AI.  (The Verge)
  
  Because AWS makes a profit whether AI is useful or not.  Its customers pay when they use the service no matter how bad it is.
  
  
  
• With TikTok less than a week from being wiped from existence, here's a list of horrible garbage apps that deserve the same fate.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  Not how they phrase it, but more accurate.
  
  
  
• The CEO of AI music company Suno says people don't like making music.  (404 Media)
  
  Aliens.  These people are aliens.
  
  
  
• Should you buy the new Western Digital SN7100 SSD?  No.  (Serve the Home)
  
  Because it is both slower and more expensive than Western Digital's own SN850X.
  
  Do buy the SN850X if it suits you, though.  It's a good drive.
  
  
  
• Can you complete the Oregon Trail by sitting at the Snake River waiting 14,272 years for conditions to improve?  Mostly, no.  (Moral Recordings)
  
  It turns out that there is a bug in the game where if you are sitting waiting at the river, your food supply is reduced each day, but your party's health status is not recalculated, making you effectively immortal.
  
  Until you move, whereupon you die.
  
  And if you somehow avoid that (by, uh, cheating) and finish the game, it crashes because you are not supposed to take more than ten thousand years to complete the journey.
  
  But if you fix that too by allowing the game to display a two-byte year, then yes.  But it's not the Oregon Trail anymore.

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• The metaverse will soo be more popular than the real world. Will reality disappear? No. (HackRead)
  
  The thing about reality is that it is real.
  
  It doesn't disappear when you stop believing in it.
  
  You do.

• Thanks to Nvidia, there's a new generation of PCs coming and they're running Linux. (ZDNet)
  
  Technically this is true. Nvidia is releasing new PCs, and they are running Linux.

  Powered by MediaTek and Nvidia's Grace Blackwell Superchip, Project DIGITS is a $3,000 personal AI that combines Nvidia's Blackwell GPU with a 20-core Grace CPU built on the Arm architecture. It's one impressive chip. It can deliver up to 1 petaflop of AI performance at FP4 precision and support 200-billion-parameter large language models.

  Not quite:

  Project DIGITS will be available in May from NVIDIA and top partners, starting at $3,000.

  There's a difference.

  OK, maybe you wouldn't pay three grand for a Project DIGITS PC. But what about a $1,000 Blackwell PC from Acer, Asus, or Lenovo?

  What about an endless magic cake that doesn't make you fat while we're wishing for things that will never happen?
  
  
  
• While we're wishing for things that will never happen the UK government is looking to leap into the red hot AI sector just before the bubble bursts. (CNBC)

  In a recent interview with CNBC, the boss of app development software firm Appian said he thinks the U.K. is well placed to be the "global leader on this issue."
  
  "The U.K. has put a stake in the ground declaring its prioritization of personal intellectual property rights," Matt Calkins, Appian’s CEO, told CNBC. He cited 2018′s Data Protection Act as an example of how the U.K. is "closely associated with intellectual property rights."
  
  The U.K. is also not "subject to the same overwhelming lobbying blitz from domestic AI leaders that the U.S. is," Calkins added — meaning it might not be as prone to bowing down to pressure from tech giants as politicians stateside.
  
  "In the U.S., anybody who writes a law about AI is going to hear from Amazon, Oracle, Microsoft or Google before that bill even reaches the floor," Calkins said.
  
  "That’s a powerful force stopping anyone from writing sensible legislation or protecting the rights of individuals whose intellectual property is being taken wholesale by these major AI players."

  In other words, the UK has failed before they have even started.
  
  
  
• THe J5Create is a Thunderbolt 5 dock that features a lot of stuff. (Tom's Hardware)
  
  Lots of video ports, an M.2 slot, support for an MXM module for a graphics upgrade, 2.5Gb Ethernet, all that good stuff.
  
  And costs $1400.
  
  
  

• Dye Depot adds sixteen new colours, neatly filling out the sixteen original ones, and Dye the World makes this compatible with several other mods.
• More Mob Variants adds all the new wolf varieties (and more) and does the same for cats, cows, pigs, sheep, chickens, and skeletons.  Sorry goats.
• Cane's Wonderful Spiders and Nebulus Spiders do this for spiders.
• Creeper Overhaul and Enderman Overhaul do this for creepers and endermen.
• Critters and Companions, Exotic Birds, Bugs Aplenty, What the Gecko, and Unusual Fish do this for mammals, birds (very scarce in vanilla Minecraft), bugs, lizards, snakes, and amphibians, and fish, respectively.
• Oh, and bees are Buzzier and more Productive.
• Look out though when the creatures from Grimoire of Gaia join the fray.  (Grimore of Gaia is on a timer so they don't show up and kill you before you even have a wooden sword, something that happened a lot during testing.) 
• Blocks+, Chipped, Chisels & Bits, Dawn of Time, and Domum Ornamentum greatly expand the range of building blocks.  (Chipped doesn't work with blocks from other mods, but Domum Ornamentum will happily create a permafrost door trimmed with olive wool, neither of which exists in vanilla Minecraft.) 
• The Aether, Blue Skies, the Undergarden, and the Twilight Forest give five brand new dimensions where you can lose all your items to unexpected dangers.
• Regions Unexplored, Terralith, and Mystic's Biomes add about 150 new biomes to the Minecraft world.
  
• Aquamirae, Deeper and Darker, the Galosophere, and the Graveyard add new regions where you can lose all your items without even venturing to another dimension.
• Villages are upgraded a lot.
  
• So are the Nether and the End.
  
• Cooking gets a boost from Farmer's Delight, Croptopia, and Aquaculture.
• The Let's Do series lets you brew tea, coffee, beer, wine, and stronger things.
• Corpse means you don't lose your items - at least, not permanently - and Pet Cemetery means you don't necessarily lose your pets either.
• Domestication Innovation makes your pets a lot more capable. 
• Supplementaries, Quark, and Clutter add a whole bunch of things.
• Small Ships add small ships, Immersive Aircraft adds immersive aircraft, and Create adds...  Pretty much everything else.

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• Enron is promoting the Enron Egg, the first home nuclear reactor.  (MSN)
  
  Which raises the question: Is it a scam if you are screaming at the top of your lungs that you are scamming people?

  Haas said that while small modular reactors do exist, they generally range from the size of a shipping container to a full-sized house. The Enron Egg, he said, is simply too small to generate power at a scale that is both economically viable and safe to operate.

  Yes.  Yes it is.

• Mad King Mat Mullenweg is now terminating the WordPress accounts of people who suggest that a WordPress fork might be forthcoming.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  Which is literally everybody.
  
  
  
• GMK has announced a mini-PC based on the Ryzen Max+ 395, so here's a picture of something else.  (WCCFTech)
  
  Because it doesn't exist yet.  The Ryzen 395 itself does - tech channels are receiving review units already - but this mini-PC is fairy dust right now.
  
  
  
• The 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 has 16GB of RAM.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  This is 8GB more than the 8GB model.
  
  The benchmark suite run here is...  Worthless.
  
  
  
• We may all have AI superpowers by 2030, commonly known as "not being a complete idiot".  (Big Think)

  For example, when a coworker approaches from down the hall, and you can’t quite remember her name, the AI will sense your unease and a voice will ring: "Jenny from quantum computing."

  Whereupon you will say, "Hi Jerry", and then shrivel up and die.
  
  
  

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• Chinese spy network TikTok is probably dead.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  The Supreme Court heard arguments from both TikTok and the Department of Justice, but seemed disinclined to intervene in the January 19th deadline for the company to divest or be shut down.
  
  TikTok argued that divestment was impossible because the Chinese government would never permit foreign control of network's recommendation algorithm - and also that the US subsidiary has the final say over such matters.  The company also claimed that it does not operate in China, which is true insofar as it goes, because TikTok, a Chinese social network, is banned in China.

• Asus has announced the ExpertCenter PN54, a new mini-PC based on AMD's new Krackan Point chips.  (WCCFTech)
  
  These chips have four Zen 5 cores running at 5GHz, and four Zen 5c cores running at 3.5GHz.  Zen 5c is functionally identical to Zen 5 but built using a more compact design, so it executes exactly the same instructions in exactly the same number of clock cycles, but runs more slowly.
  
  And eight RDNA 3.5 graphics cores.
  
  So overall it's not an improvement over the previous generation (like the 8845HS) but might possibly be cheaper maybe.
  
  Also, this model includes user-upgradeable SO-DIMM memory (along with two M.2 slots, two 2.5Gb Ethernet ports, two DisplayPort ports, HDMI, and USB4).
  
  Which makes me wonder: Does the memory controller on the Ryzen AI Max+ 395 also support socketed memory?  Four channels of it?  384GB of it?
  
  That all of AMD's other mobile chips support socketed memory suggests that it might.
  
  
  
• The problem with running AMD's faster laptop chips with socketed RAM is that they have fast integrated graphics and need lots of memory bandwidth, and socketed DDR5 RAM is slower than soldered LPDDR5X.
  
  Or at least that used to be the case.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  G.Skill has announced 8133MHz DDR5 CSODIMMS - the "C" stands for clock, since these modules have a clock generator chip added to them to improve stability at such a high speed.
  
  We don't know if these modules might be compatible with AMD's latest laptop chips, but it's an interesting thing to consider.
  
  
  
• JPMorgan Chase has said to its more than 300,000 staff, get back into the office you worthless slugs.  (The Guardian)
  
  All employees are required to be in the office a minimum of five days a week.
  
  
  
• Automattic, the domain of Mad King Matt Mullenweg and corporate parent of former blogging platform WordPress, has cut its commitment to developing that software by 99%, the equivalent of firing a hundred staff.  (Automattic)
  
  Whether they actually had a hundred staff left to fire is an open question.
  
  King Matt said - paraphrasing - that just because Automattic owns WordPress and makes all its money off it, doesn't mean that it should be expected to do any work to update or maintain the software.  Also that he only beats us because he loves us.
  
  If Automattic goes through with this, WordPress is dead and will be forked by the community.
  
  
  
• Education technology company PowerSchool was hacked and had its database of teacher and student information stolen.  (The Register)
  
  That's sixty million people, mostly children.  Not good.
  
  Or former children, because the attack may have been going on since 2011.
  
  And may extend to every application the company runs.
  
  So there's that.
  
  
  
• Apple is uploading every photo on every Mac and iDevice to be scanned by AI without asking anyone.  (The Register)
  
  But don't worry, says Apple, it's homomorphic.
  
  
  
• Triplegangers, a company that digitally scans real people and then sells them, got knocked off the net by OpenAI's web spider searching for fresh meat.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  Welcome to the party, pal.
  
  
  
• How to delete Facebook, Instagram, and Threads.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  Helpful information, but as usual journalists are outraged by the lack of censorship.

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• The Pilet 5 and Pilet 7, two handheld computers from another dimension, launched as a Kickstarter project two days ago.  There must be a lot of people visiting here from that dimension because the project hit its funding goal in five minutes.  (Kickstarter)
  
  They're not cheap because so far they're only planning to make a thousand or so of them, and you have to add a Raspberry Pi 5 yourself, but they do look very cool in a retrofuturistic kind of way.
  
  So far the larger Pilet 7 takes a Bluetooth keyboard and not the physical add-ons that we've seen pictured with the handmade prototypes, but those are planned if the project hits $1 million in funding.  And since it's reached $578,000 in just two days that seems pretty likely.
  
  I'll keep an eye on this one.  I have a Pi 5 so that expense is already covered.

• Divide FLOPs by four and multiple dollars by two.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  Raja Koduri - former head of AMD's Radeon division - talking about Nvidia's Project DIGITS desktop supercomputer.  It starts at $3000 and promises 1 petaFLOPs of AI compute - at 4 bits of precision - but according to Koduri once you start looking at more general purpose tasks the performance is closer to that of a $250 Intel B580.
  
  
  
• Speaking of Intel AMD is blaming their competitor for shortages of the Ryzen 9800X3D.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  Specifically that Intel's latest CPUs are so bad that everyone is now buying AMD instead.  And since AMD's 9000 series before the 9800X3D was kind of underwhelming - since fixed with price cuts - everyone wants the 9800X3D specifically.
  
  AMD announced the 9900X3D and 9950X3D at CES, so maybe there will be more chips available for purchase soon.
  
  
  
• Minisforum has also announced a Ryzen 370 mini-PC with upgradeable RAM.  (Liliputing)
  
  I noticed this a few days ago with Geekom, and wondered if it was real, because I didn't think the Ryzen 370 supported regular SODIMMS - only soldered LPDDR5X.  
  
  But apparently I was wrong because Minisforum already has a Ryzen 370 mini-PC with soldered RAM, and is now releasing a new model with socketed RAM - up to 96GB of it.
  
  In addition to that it has three M.2 slots, two USB4 ports, two 2.5Gb Ethernet ports, OCuLink for an external GPU, a built-in power supply, a fingerprint scanner recessed into the top of the case, and...  We don't know.  A couple more USB ports at least, and a couple of video ports of some description, but the exact tech specs have not been listed yet.
  
  The one catch is that with DDR5-5600 instead of LPDDR5X-7500 the GPU performance will suffer.  You get the full GPU but the RAM likely won't be fast enough to keep it fed.
  
  So graphics will probably run like the 8840HS (which definitely ships with regular DDR5) but the CPU will easily outpace the older chip.
  
  
  
• TikTok staff affected by the Los Angeles fires will have to take time off from work if they can't work from home because they don't have one anymore.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  That is how things usually work, isn't it?  The sense that I'm not the unreasonable one here is reinforced when the article goes on to complain that sick TikTok workers have to use their sick days when they can't go into the office because they are sick.
  
  
  
• Scale AI, which is not an AI company at all but a people farm, is being sued - again - because it classes its staff as contractors rather than employees and only pays then $15 per hour instead of the California minimum of $16.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  Which if true is extremely stupid on Scale AI's part, because saving one dollar per hour only to risk a lawsuit that is extremely likely to succeed because the state government nets 75% of any penalties seems like a poor business plan.

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• Can the Nvidia RTX 5070 deliver 4090 performance for $549?  No.  Are you stupid or something?  (The Verge)
  
  The Verge clearly pays its writers by the word, because it takes a very long time for this piece to come to the obvious conclusion that Nvidia is lying about everything.
  
  
  

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• Meanwhile the Radeon 9070 could deliver similar performance to the Nvidia RTX 4080 unless it doesn't.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  Shrug.
  
  
  
• The CEO of Mastodon is horrified by the prospect of Facebook allowing freedom of speech.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  He urged people to use Mastodon (which nobody uses) instead of Threads (which nobody uses).
  
  
  
• CES is apparently still going, but nothing is happening.  Maybe they could try turning it off and on again.

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• HP has announced a mini-PC (well, mini-ish anyway) based on AMD's new Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 395.  (Liliputing)
  
  The Z2 Mini G1a is a desktop version of the ZBook Ultra 14 G1a.  So it has up to 16 Zen 5 CPU cores, 40 RDNA 3.5 graphics cores, and 128GB of LPDDR5X RAM.
  
  The desktop model supports two M.2 2280 SSDs, up to three Ethernet ports, two USB4 ports, two mini-DisplayPort ports, and four regular USB ports.
  
  Prices should start around $1200 for a slower model with less memory.
  
  
  
• Nvidia's Project DIGITS is a desktop supercomputer-ish.  (Ars Technica)
  
  It has a 20 core Arm CPU, a Blackwell GPU, up to 128GB of memory, and up to 4TB of SSD.
  
  It delivers up to a petaFLOP of AI performance...  At four bits of precision.
  
  Prices will start around $3000.

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• AMD announced about seven thousand new (and "new") mobile CPUs at CES.  (Ars Technica)
  
  These start with the Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 395 at the high end, with sixteen Zen 5 cores and 40 RDNA 3.5 graphics cores, and go all the way down to the Ryzen 3 210, which "only" has four Zen 4 cores - three of which are the somewhat slower Zen 4c - and four RDNA 3 graphics cores.
  
  Which is still reasonably fast, true.
  
  
  
• Meanwhile Nvidia announced the new RTX 5000 family and lied about the performance.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  The new RTX 5070 is claimed to be as fast as an RTX 4090, but if you dig into the details it turns out they are literally doubling the numbers produced by the 5070.
  
  With the new AI frame generation, it generates three fake frames for each real one, which makes games smoother at the expense of being 75% bullshit.
  
  Pricing starts at $550 for the 5070 and goes up to $2000 for the 5090.

• HP announced the new ZBook Ultra 14 G1a with AMD's new Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 395.  (Notebook Check)
  
  Depending on the options, it can have up to 128GB of RAM - and allocate up to 96GB of that to the GPU if you are doing AI work, which is a cheap way to get a GPU with a huge amount of RAM.
  
  The RAM is soldered and 128GB is going to be expensive, but it is available as an option.
  
  Other than that you get a 14" 2880x1800 120Hz OLED panel, up to 4TB of SSD, two USB4 ports - one on each side, which is convenient, two other USB ports, HDMI, and a headphone jack.
  
  Prices not announced yet but expected to start at $1500.
  
  Oh, and it almost has the Four Essential Keys.  The Home key is shared with F12, but I don't really use F12 anymore since Chrome remapped the Dev Tools.
  
  
  
• A study found that Chinese propaganda network TikTok is a vehicle for Chinese propaganda.  (Gizmodo)
  
  I am shocked.
  
  Also, Chinese propaganda network TikTok is banned in China.
  
  
  
• HDMI 2.2 has been announced, running at 96Gbps.  (PC World)
  
  That's a lot of Gbps.  It's intended for 8K and upcoming 10K displays, which nobody has.
  
  
  
• Intel announced a whole range of laptop CPUs as well.  (Ars Technica)
  
  Nothing as exciting as AMD's Ryzen Max+ Pro, but if they have the same efficiency gains as the new desktop chips they might be decent.
  
  We'll see once reviews drop.
  
  
  
• Note to self: The magical memory reduction option for Minecraft modpacks is in ModernFix, not Ferrite Core.
  
  Add mixin.perf.dynamic_resources=true at the bottom of the config file and watch memory usage be cut in half.

• CES is almost upon us.  What can we expect to see this year?  Crap.  (The Verge)
  
  It's mostly things that you not only don't want, but would pay a modest amount not to have impinge upon your consciousness at all.
  
  Among all that there is probably something worthwhile.
  
  Probably.

• Having utterly failed to produce intelligence, OpenAI is now moving on to superintelligence.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  In much the same way that California is building high-speed rail after so much success with the regular kind.
  
  
  
• Need HDMI output for your Commodore 64?  The HD-64 is just wait you need.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  Of course, a Raspberry Pi Pico could do all of this for five bucks, but then...  Actually, I can't think of any downsides.
  
  
  
• The Espresso Pro 15 is a 15" 4K portable monitor.  (9to5Mac)
  
  It's not bad hardware, but the price is another question.  The Pro 15 isn't listed yet, but the Pro 17 costs as much as four 27" 4K monitors.
  
  
  
• Geekom is offering a Ryzen 370 mini-PC.  (Liliputing)
  
  Twelve CPU cores, sixteen graphics cores, dual HDMI outputs, dual 2.5Gb Ethernet, WiFi 7, eight USB ports, M.2 2280 and 2230 slots for SSDs.
  
  And - this is the interesting part - two SODIMM slots for DDR5-5600 memory.
  
  Which according to my understanding was not supported at all by the Ryzen 370 family, and is the only time I've seen socketed DDR5 memory paired with these chips.
  
  Unless the spec sheet is wrong.

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2 I have an old C64 boxed away in storage.  After the power supply went out on it again I upgraded to an 80826

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