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Daily News Stuff 14 July 2020

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  • The Intel Core i3 10100 is cheap and fast matching the Xeon E3-1275 v6 and stomping older E3 Xeons.

    If you look around for small cheap servers, E3 Xeons are everywhere.  This i3 beats them all.  And there are some great prices for them because it's such a cheap part to begin with.  For $5 more than this virtual server I could get something easily twice as fast.

    But:

    • Socket 1200 server boards are in short supply, so those are most likely on desktop boards.  Single network port and no IPMI.
    • No ECC.  It's just not supported.
    • The Ryzen 3 3300X scores remarkably better on the PassMark multi-threaded workload.  More than 50% better.  That's a surprise, but I've found PassMark to be a pretty good predictor of real-world performance so far.


  • On the other hand, you cannot get the Ryzen 3 3300X.  It doesn't even show up in searches on Amazon or Newegg.

    The one price I saw quoted was $250, which is nearly double the list price and more than a 3600X.


  • Techdirt is very, very drunk today.


  • Google's new Confidential VMs use AMD's memory encryption.  (AnandTech)

    There are various ways to break out of a VM on an unpatched server and spy on other VMs on the same node.  Most of those ways only work on Intel, and Google (and the other big cloud companies) are good at keeping up with the patches.

    But this is a very strong extra level of protection.  Also, if you tick that option you know you'll be running on AMD because Intel doesn't support this.


  • Hands on with that Indiegogo AMD NUC.  (Tom's Hardware)

    It's well-designed and it works.  This model is based on a Ryzen 3000-series APU, but the company has confirmed they are working on a Ryzen 4000 update.


Not At All Tech News

  • This is so bad it makes my head hurt.



    Yes, it's real, or as real as anything is these days.


  • Take this.  It will make you feel better.




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1 There is an i3-10100E which has ECC, but it's slower:  3.2 base, 3.8 turbo.

Posted by: Rick C at Wednesday, July 15 2020 03:37 AM (Iwkd4)

2 Ah, interesting.  Yes, they usually have one or two i3 models that support ECC.  The 3300X would be better - if it were available to buy anywhere.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at Wednesday, July 15 2020 09:28 AM (PiXy!)

3 Looking at the passmark stuff, those TDP figures are all very interesting, but based on real world tests, how much actual power do those things draw?  Am I mistaken or don't a rather lot of Intel chips pull quite a bit more than twice their rated wattage at full load?  I'd rather have a 10% slower chip that draws half the power for some random workload.

Posted by: normal at Wednesday, July 15 2020 10:08 AM (obo9H)

4 The recent high-end Intel chips can draw double the rated power and spike to three times the rating.  I believe the lower-end chips are much better behaved.

This is configurable in BIOS but often comes set to deliver maximum performance at any cost so that it will look good in benchmarks.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at Wednesday, July 15 2020 12:20 PM (PiXy!)

Posted by: Wonderduck at Thursday, July 16 2020 06:28 PM (UdIkr)

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