It was a bad day. A lot of bad stuff happened. And I'd love to forget it all. But I don't. Not ever. Because this is what I do. Every time, every day, every second, this: On five, we're bringing down the government.
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UY Scuti is located a few degrees north of the A-type star Gamma Scuti and northeast of the Eagle Nebula. Although the star is very luminous it is, at its brightest, only 9th magnitude as viewed from Earth, due to its distance and location in the Zone of Avoidance within the Cygnus Rift.
Amid the more visceral chaos of the world this year, there has been something of a contretemps involving the Shakespeare in the Park production of Julius Caesar, to wit, that they had placed a Trump-like figure in the part of Caesar.
Those who know anything about the play - or about history - will know one key fact about Julius Caesar, which is to say, he gets stabby-stabby murdered by a gaggle of Roman senators.
Back in the last millennium, I had a minor role in a failed high-school production of Julius Caesar, not so much because I was interested in amateur theatrics, as because it got me out of sports practice for several weeks. The production was being done by the 8th grade, but they were short-handed, so a couple of us 9th graders pitched in seeing as we had studied the play the previous year.
So every week for a couple of months I spent one afternoon in rehearsals. Since my part was a small one and I'd learned it the first day, I took the time to memorise the rest of the play.
And this is the second thing people should know about Julius Caesar, both the play and the man: It's a tragedy.
Was he a tyrant? Perhaps, but less so than many who came later. Was he a great leader? Indubitably. Was it a good idea to kill him?
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Caesar. The noble Brutus
Hath told you Caesar was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Caesar answerâ€™d it.
Here, under leave of Brutus and the restâ€“
For Brutus is an honourable man;
So are they all, all honourable menâ€“
Come I to speak in Caesarâ€™s funeral.
He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
But Brutus says he was ambitious;
And Brutus is an honourable man.
He hath brought many captives home to Rome
Whose ransoms did the general coffers fill:
Did this in Caesar seem ambitious?
When that the poor have cried, Caesar hath wept:
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet Brutus says he was ambitious;
And Brutus is an honourable man.
The play is unequivocal on this. Though its discussion of the honour of the various characters is subtle and complex, its position on that question is clear enough. When Marc Antony says, So are they all, all honourable men, what he is saying - and the audience will know this - is that in his opinion not a one of them is deserving of the dignity of a final cigarette.
So to me the interesting question was, how does this production handle this question? Does it present Trump as a noble but flawed figure? Does it present Brutus the same, the assassination a tragic error that he must, for honour, pay for with his life? The parallel with Trump here would be painfully clear - that the fruitless Russia investigations and the inane and incessant calls for impeachment are folly that can only lead in disaster for all involved.
Or does it play it broadly and bastardise one of the greatest works of English literature in service of convenient political point-scoring?
I mentioned in my Winter Wrapup that AMD graphics cards have become almost impossible to find, because they're all being bought by cryptocurrency miners. If you live somewhere with reasonably priced electricity, the pay-back time for a Radeon 570 or 580 is about 3 months, and getting shorter as the currencies increase in value.
nVidia's cards are less efficient at mining, but they're still more efficient than an AMD card you don't have, so the GPU blight is spreading. A couple of weeks ago, the GTX 1070 (a very nice card) was readily available. Now:
If this keeps up, the Xbox One and Playstation 4 will be next to go - both have AMD GPUs.
Hey, if you really need a 1070, Newegg's got two whole models in stock...at $630+. That'd be about $1500 in Australia, right?
Posted by: Rick C at Thursday, June 15 2017 11:38 PM (ECH2/)
No wonder the shelves at Frys were completely empty of AMD cards last week. I thought maybe they'd reorganized the shelves and put them somewhere else.
Posted by: Will at Friday, June 16 2017 01:05 AM (MjS40)
I'm going to be building a new desktop soonish. Fortunately I have a GTX 950 squared away, from the current desktop, which got a new RX 480.
Posted by: Rick C at Friday, June 16 2017 01:23 AM (ECH2/)
Just picked up the core of my new system: Ryzen 5 1600X, Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming mobo, 16GB (2x
of DDR4-2400, and a 480GB Patriot NVMe M.2 SSD. For the moment it's got an R7 250, but that's going to be replaced with a GTX 950 when I get a power supply that's big enough.
Borrowed a mid-tower computer from work that wasn't being used, with the plan of getting a uATX mobo, but there was a better one for not much more. Got it home and noticed it was a full-sized ATX, so it won't fit in the case. Had to remove the PSU and front-panel switch from the case.
Oh, Windows 10 on a USB3 stick. From boot up til the password prompt, about 9 minutes.
Posted by: Rick C at Thursday, June 22 2017 01:53 PM (ITnFO)
I'm planning on getting either a Ryzen system later this year. Either the 1700, or the cheapest ThreadRipper if the price is reasonable. I don't really need that much power, but it would mean I could hang onto the system longer without running into limits.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Thursday, June 22 2017 07:00 PM (PiXy!)
Thinking about a Corsair Crystal 460x with front- or top-mounted 240mm AIO watercooling, not sure of what kind yet. Right now it seems to be idling about 50C, which seems high. Possibly I didn't do a good enough job on the TIM, or the 1600X has the 20C offset thing so it's really only 30C, I'm not sure which yet. I'm also considering returning the motherboard for the next step up (gaming 3) which has significantly better reviews on Newegg.
Posted by: Rick C at Friday, June 23 2017 07:01 AM (ECH2/)
As Seen On Reddit: "Set your voltages manually. I had my 1600x (running stock) on auto and the motherboard decided to yolo voltages all up to 1.45 quite often causing high temps on a cooler made for 130w TDP"
Posted by: Rick C at Friday, June 23 2017 07:03 AM (ECH2/)
I believe all the X parts (1600X, 1700X, 1800X) have that weird 20C offset, so you're probably fine.
And yeah, the advice from AMD is to keep long-term voltage to 1.35V or less, both for reasons of heat and for the longevity of the CPU.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Friday, June 23 2017 12:23 PM (PiXy!)
Looks like. The BIOS and Ryzen Master both show idle temps more like 30C.
I haven't touched the voltage yet. Ryzen Master shows it running from about 0.84V at idle (typically all 6 cores @ 2200MHz) to 1.375V when gaming, to 1.48 or so at full utilization, say Prime95.
Thought I'd try undervolting a bit but my motherboard's bios settings for that are limited, another reason to consider swapping it out. The highest performance it'll do at stock settings seems to be 3 cores at 3.7GHz and the rest somewhat slower. I picked up a 500W EVGA PSU so I could put the 950 in it. Ugh--the PSU fan runs at 0% or 100%, it seems, mostly the latter, even with the thing mostly idle, and it's LOUD. Need to find something quieter.
Posted by: Rick C at Saturday, June 24 2017 07:39 AM (ECH2/)
I've found Corsair power supplies to be good, even the relatively cheap ones. Been using them for about 10 years now.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Saturday, June 24 2017 09:42 AM (PiXy!)
Probably going to get the Corsair RM550x. Supposed to be quite good, and also quiet. I have a CX450 (430?) in another computer now. Generally I've been happy with their stuff.
I got HWINFO64 this evening. I've seen up to two cores at a time hit a 40.75 multiplier, what's a much more typical "max" is 37.0. A bit annoying, but still pretty fast. Right now I have no case, and the hottest I've seen the CPU report is 55C or so while gaming, not counting prime95, etc.
Still on the fence about replacing the motherboard, because of the limitations of Ryzen overclocking (specifically, the loss of all clock adjustments), but if I do I'll probably go with the ASRock Taichi--possibly it'll clock up a bit better, but if not, I'll live.
Posted by: Rick C at Saturday, June 24 2017 01:33 PM (ITnFO)
Got the Corsair PSU -- very nice, fan doesn't even come on while gaming, although I haven't done a stress test.
Taichi motherboard didn't like the Geil RAM I bought, though--the computer booted once, then refused to boot with POST codes 54 and 55. I finally got it to boot with one stick, in the wrong slot, but when I tried to reboot for a BIOS update, it wouldn't boot again. Sigh. I guess it's back to the store tomorrow for something on Asrock's QVL. AM4 motherboards are famously finicky about which RAM they take. The cheapest stuff Micro Center has that's on the QVL is $40 more than the Geil stuff I got, or $20 more, if Micro Center will price match Frys. Very annoying.
Posted by: Rick C at Sunday, June 25 2017 12:42 PM (ITnFO)
That's weird. Standard memory clocks? AM4 is finicky about overclocked RAM, but at standard speed everything should work.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Sunday, June 25 2017 07:57 PM (PiXy!)
Yup, I didn't mess with any timings or voltages (and even if I had, I reset the CMOS several times), it's just some 2400 running at 16-16-16-36. The post codes indicate "memory problem" or "memory can't be found". Sometimes I get an E4, which I can't find a definition for.
Posted by: Rick C at Monday, June 26 2017 12:02 AM (ITnFO)
Gave up. With the new RAM, it still wouldn't POST, so I returned everything. Not sure what I'll do now.
Posted by: Rick C at Monday, June 26 2017 05:43 AM (ITnFO)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Monday, June 26 2017 09:44 AM (PiXy!)
Am giving serious thought to this Best Buy CyberpowerPC model. There's a store that should have one in stock about a 15-minute drive from the office, so I am inclined to pick it up on the way home today. I can always return it if it's junk. It has a lot of good reviews on their site, and some good Youtube reviews. $650 for a 1400 and a 4GB RX 580! I wanted the hex-core but the quad will probably meet my needs. The biggest problem people seem to have with it is they plugged the case fans into the Molex connectors on the PSU instead of going with motherboard PWM connectors, which makes it loudish. I heard one at idle in the store, and the noise was louder than I'd like but not really loud, at least not over the store noise. And the fix won't be very expensive, even if it means replacing the fans.
Oddly, they replaced the stock Wraith cooler.
Posted by: Rick C at Wednesday, June 28 2017 06:01 AM (ECH2/)
And I got it. Will see how well it works. Came with an MSI B350 bazooka motherboard, 8GB of GEIL RAM, and a 4GB MSI RX 580.
Posted by: Rick C at Wednesday, June 28 2017 09:21 AM (ITnFO)
The assembly was competent if not stellar. I moved one of the two case fans from a Molex connector to a motherboard one, not that it probably makes much difference as it's a 3-pin, but it turns out it's not the long pole in the tent anyway--the noise is coming from the Cooler Master fan/heatsink they replaced the stock Wraith with, which uses a 3-pin connector as well, so it runs at 4K RPM. Obviously this means I need to replace it.
Overclocked from 3.2 to 3.4 with ease, and seems to run fine. From what I'd read, OC on Ryzen disables all power management and all the cores run at max speed all the time. This appears not to be true. I watched Ryzen Master report various cores bouncing between 1550, 2800, and 3400MHz. This is pretty promising, so I'll see how it goes and see how much headroom I have.
I know I don't really need to but I'll probably replace the HSF with a 120M or maybe 240M AIO.
Posted by: Rick C at Wednesday, June 28 2017 11:28 AM (ITnFO)
Nuance: if your power plan allows for P- and C-states, they may get used. I didn't see it happen, after all.
OC from 3.2GHz to 3.5, just via keying in a new speed, no problem. Going to 3.7, fine at idle, but crashed when I went into Minecraft. I hadn't touched the voltage, it was still at 1.275 or so. I'm guessing that was the problem.
Posted by: Rick C at Wednesday, June 28 2017 02:27 PM (ITnFO)
That sounds like a pretty good deal. Much less messing around for you, RX 580 is a great card, and you can always upgrade the CPU later if you need it.
From the looks of things, Zen 2 next year might be a 12-core part, which will push down the prices on the 6 and 8-core versions. And Zen 2 and Zen 3 will still use the AM4 socket, so you've got plenty of upgrade room.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Wednesday, June 28 2017 05:29 PM (PiXy!)
With a new, larger CPU fan (with PWM!), I can do a bit more serious work overclocking. So far, 20 minutes of Prime95 @ 3.6GHz is leading to temps around 49-51C, with a core voltage of 1.2375 and a NB of 0.91V. Without the slight voltage tweak, I guess the voltage was too low and it simply powered off--very nice! No apparent danger of damage, temps hadn't gone any higher. (With the crappy HSF it came with, it was hitting around 53C before crashing.)
Posted by: Rick C at Saturday, July 01 2017 03:19 PM (ITnFO)
Of course it crashed right after that, but it made it 25 minutes with about 52C max temps. I bumped the voltage up another notch, and will try a longer test tomorrow.
Posted by: Rick C at Saturday, July 01 2017 03:51 PM (ITnFO)
Sounds good. That voltage is still pretty low, so you likely have some headroom there.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Saturday, July 01 2017 08:00 PM (PiXy!)
Yeah, I expect I'll have to raise it some more.
Posted by: Rick C at Sunday, July 02 2017 02:30 AM (ITnFO)
It's been a busy time in the tech industry, with Computex, WWDC, and E3 following hard on each other's heels, so I thought a quick wrapup of the top stories might be useful to those who don't have the time or inclination to obsess over this stuff, but are nonetheless mildly interested.
I'll break it down by company, starting with
AMD: Eight Is The New Four
It's shaping up to be AMD's biggest year for a decade. So far they've released their Ryzen R7 and R5 processors and RX 500 series GPUs, announced the new Vega GPU and Epyc server processors for release this month, launched the ThreadRipper high-end workstation CPU, partnered with Apple for the updated iMac and Macbook models and the brand new iMac Pro, and with Microsoft for the Xbox One X (aka the Xbonx).
The Microsoft Xbox One X, at 6TFLOPs so powerful that its graphics look better than reality.*
They've already completely upset the industry by selling 8-core CPUs at 4-core prices, and they'll be doubling down in the second half of this year - literally - by selling 16-core CPUs at 8-core prices and 32-core CPUs at 16-core prices. Look for 16 cores at less than $1000 and 32 cores at under $2000, dramatically cheaper than Intel's pricing (if Intel even had a 32-core chip, which they don't).
Dell's Inspiron 27 7000 is based on the 8-core Ryzen 7, with twin overhead cams and optional supercharger.*
AMD's entire revenue stream is less than Intel's R&D budget, so they had to get clever to pull this off. The entire line of CPUs, from 4 cores all the way up to 32, is based on a single universal design with two clusters of 4 cores. A chip with no defects can be sold as an 8-core part, with one or two defects as a 6-core part, with more defects as a 4-core part. Reports are that AMD is actually getting a yield of 80% defect-free chips, so many of the 6-core and 4-core parts probably work perfectly and just have some parts of the chip switched off.
For their 16-core workstation chips they simply wire two of these standard 8-core modules together. The 32-core server parts likewise are made up of four 8-core modules. And if you need serious horsepower, you can plug two 32-core CPUs into a server motherboard for 64 total cores supporting up to 2TB of RAM.
That standard 8-core module also has a bunch of other features, including SATA ports, USB ports, network controllers, and 32 PCIe lanes. A two-socket Epyc server, without needing any chipset support, includes 128 available PCIe lanes, 32 memory slots, 16 SATA ports, 16 USB 3.1 ports, and a couple of dozen network controllers.
In the second half of this year AMD will be adding mobile parts with integrated graphics, a desktop chip also with integrated graphics, and a chip designed specifically for high-end networking equipment like routers and 5G wireless base stations.
Intel: Nine Is The New Seven
Intel has been in the lead with both chip design and manufacturing the last few years, and seems to have been caught napping with the success of AMD's Ryzen and the announcement of ThreadRipper. They've fired back with their Core i9 professional platform, but it's rather a mess. The low-end chips require a high-end motherboard they can't fully use; the mid-range chips require a high-end motherboard they can't fully use; the high-end chips are nice, but very expensive; and the super-high-end chips seem to have suffered a sudden total existence failure* - the 12 to 18-core parts cannot be found anywhere, not even as detailed specifications. We have a price for each, and a core count, and that's it.
The first and last hours of Apple's interminable WWDC keynote were stultifying, with such landmark announcements as support for Amazon video (like everyone else) and a wireless speaker (like everyone else).
In between they finally refreshed the iMac to current hardware - Intel's current generation CPU, AMD's current generation graphics, the same Thunderbolt 3 that everyone else has had for eighteen months, and DDR4, which everyone else has had for even longer.
Some welcome changes in that the specs are definitely better, prices are lower, screens are even better than before (and the screens on the current range of iMacs are amazing).
And then they announced the iMac Pro. Same 27" 5K screen as the regular model, but with an 8-core CPU on the low-end model. High end model has 18 cores, up to 128GB RAM, a 4TB SSD, and an AMD Vega GPU with 16GB of video RAM. Also, four Thunderbolt 3 ports, four USB 3.1 ports, and 10 Gbit ethernet.
The iMac Pro has so many cores that it can be seen from the International Space Station.*
It starts at $4999, which is awfully expensive for an iMac, but Apple claimed that it still works out cheaper than an equivalent workstation from anyone else. I configured a couple of systems from Dell and Lenovo, and I have to admit that Apple is right here. It costs no more, and possibly less, even though it includes a superb 5K monitor.
On the other hand, not one thing in the iMac Pro is user-upgradable. That's kind of a bummer.
nVidia: Bringing Skynet To Your Desktop, You Can Thank Us Later
nVidia have been a little quieter than their rivals at AMD, though more successful with their graphics parts so far - AMD's Vega is running several months late.
Their biggest announcement recently is their next generation Volta GPU, which delivers over 120 TFLOPs (sort of), and, at over 800 mm2, is the biggest chip I have ever heard of.
That "sort of" is because the vast majority of the processing power comes in the form of low-precision math for AI programming, not anything that will be directly useful for graphics. And such a large chip - more than four times the size of AMD's Ryzen CPU parts - will be hellishly expensive to manufacture.
nVidia's Volta GPU is the largest chip ever manufactured. For scale, a row of Grayhound buses is parked along each edge of this picture.*
It's nonetheless an exciting development for anyone working in machine learning, and it certainly had a positive effect on nV's share price.
Speaking of graphics, now is not a good time to be trying to buy a new graphics card, because there aren't any. Particularly with AMD, but the shortage is starting to affect nVidia as well. A bubble in cryptocurrency prices, especially for a new currency called Etherium, has triggered a virtual goldrush that has had miners buying every card they can get their hands on.
AMD cards are preferred for this for precisely the same reason nVidia are preferred by most gamers: AMD's design is more general-purpose, less specifically optimised for games. For Etherium mining, AMD's cards are roughly twice as effective as an equivalent nVidia card.
Result: No ETA.
AMD's entire production line captured by Bitcoin pirates.*
IBM: The Next Next Next Generation
One of the reasons AMD is having such a huge year is that they've spent most of the past five years stuck at the old 28nm process technology (called a "node"). The 20nm node that was supposed to replace it in 2014 wound up dead in a ditch* with only Intel managing to make it work (because they moved to FINFETs earlier than anyone else).
Last year the rest of the industry collectively got their new process nodes - called 14nm or 16nm depending on who you talk to, but all based on FINFETs and all far superior to the old 28nm node - got their new processes on line and started cranking out chips. This means that AMD can make 8-core parts that are faster, smaller, and more power-efficient than anything they had before, and do it cheaper. They were years behind Intel and caught up in a single step.
IBM just announced the first test chips on a brand new 5nm node. To put that in perspective, they could put the CPU and GPU of the top-of-the-line model of the new iMac Pro on a single chip, add a gigabyte of cache, and run it at low enough power that you could use it in an Xbox.
IBM provided us with this die photo of their 5nm sample chip. Unfortunately it is invisible to the naked eye.*
They're planning to follow up with a 3nm process. This is pretty much the end of the road for regular silicon; we have to go to graphene or 3D lithography or quantum well transistors or some other exotic thing to move forward from there. But the amazing stuff we're getting right now is at 14nm, so 3nm is not shabby at all.
ARM: We're Here Too!
ARM sells a trillion chips a year* dwarfing the combined scaled of Intel, AMD, and nVidia, but they're constrained by power and price and can't make huge splashy announcements of mega-chips like nVidia's Volta or AMD's Vega and Epyc.
Nonetheless, they've come up with new high-end and low-end designs in the A75 and A55 cores. The A75 replaces the A72 and A73 cores, which are alternative designs for a high-performance 64-bit core with different strengths and weaknesses; the A75 combines the best features of both to be faster and more power-efficient than either.
An early ARM motherboard from an Acorn Archimedes A3000. Note that none of the chips have fans, or even heatsinks. That's because these machines were cooled by photino radiation, before this was banned for causing birth defects in igneous rocks.*
The A55 is a follow-up to the ubiquitous A53, which is found in just about every budget phone and tablet and many not-so-budget ones. The A53 is a versatile low-power part with decent performance; the A55 is designed to improve performance and power efficiency at the same time. It's not an exciting CPU, but ARM's manufacturing partners will ship them in astronomical volume.
The other thing to note about these new CPUs is that again, eight is the new four. Most phone CPUs currently have cores grouped into fours - commonly four fast cores and four power-saving cores - because that's as many as you could group together. The A75 and A55 allow you to have up to eight cores in a group. Which changes the perspective a little, because eight A75 cores is getting into typical desktop performance territory.
1. Is the new Mac Pro using those imaginary Core i9s?
2. Regarding your comment about a 5nm cpu/gpu: I would imagine liquid nitrogen would be almost mandatory to run that at any reasonable power budget.
3. IIRC, those new ARMs will be able to join multiple 8-core clusters.
Posted by: Rick C at Friday, June 16 2017 04:35 AM (ECH2/)
1. No, it's using Xeon chips, which are expensive but at least ship reliably (except for the very highest-spec versions, which are impossible to find.)
2. IBM say that power consumption is reduced 75% over current-gen chips, meaning either 14nm or 10nm. That's the really impressive part - you could put two CPUs and two GPUs on a 5nm chip at the power consumption of a single 14nm chip.
3. Likely, yes. There are some dual-cluster A53 chips out now, that let you use all 8 cores at once.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Friday, June 16 2017 11:12 AM (PiXy!)
Re: 2: that is impressive. And important. I've read that the 10nm chips are getting so small they can't easily transfer heat to the IHS.
Posted by: Rick C at Friday, June 16 2017 12:45 PM (ITnFO)
Yep. 5nm is not just a smaller process, they've changed the way they build the transistors, making them much more efficient. Won't be available until 2020 or so, but what we have right now is already pretty amazing.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Friday, June 16 2017 02:27 PM (PiXy!)
Looks like Fry's has RX 580s and GTX 1080s in stock.
Posted by: Rick C at Friday, June 16 2017 11:57 PM (ECH2/)
Saw on Reddit that they've enforced a one-per-customer rule.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Saturday, June 17 2017 11:11 AM (PiXy!)
Reviews are coming out for Skylake-X. Overclocking will require big watercooling. Tom's hardware: "All-in-ones like Corsair's H100i and Enermax's LiqTech 240 hit their limits at stock frequencies under Prime95. The custom loop threw in the towel at 4.6 GHz."
Posted by: Rick C at Tuesday, June 20 2017 06:03 AM (ECH2/)
Should've been clear: that's specifically for the highest-core part that will be available next week, the 10-core 7900X.
AIOs will work at stock speeds, but any level of overclocking requires a lot more. TH tested with a $1000 watercooling system and at 4.6GHz, the CPU was pulling well over 300W and still hitting 100C constantly, and then it shut down.
Posted by: Rick C at Tuesday, June 20 2017 06:07 AM (ECH2/)
Yeah, I saw one of the reviews. Clock speeds are up, which is great, but power consumption is through the roof. The 10-core system at stock speeds uses more than twice the power of an 8-core Ryzen 1700 system.
Not the CPU, the entire computer. So a 16-core AMD system will comfortably use less power than a 10-core Intel system.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Tuesday, June 20 2017 02:35 PM (PiXy!)
Honestly, if AMD wasn't lurking in the shadows with ThreadRipper, it would be pretty impressive. 10 cores and a top speed of 4.5GHz? Shame about the price, but otherwise it's a no-compromise platform.
But AMD is lurking, so it's likely to get stomped into irrelevance by August.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Tuesday, June 20 2017 04:21 PM (PiXy!)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Monday, June 12 2017 02:34 PM (PiXy!)
If you had told me this morning that when I got home from work, I'd wind up watching an AMV using footage from K-On! and music by ELO, I'd just stare at you blankly.
Mostly because I'd be wondering how you got into Pond Central, but that's besides the point.
Catgirls: I recognize Welcome To The NHK, one of the Monogatari series, Cat Planet Cuties, Chi's Sweet Home, Ouran High School Host Club, Hellsing Ultimate (yes, really), K-On!, Strike Witches, Nichijou, Soul Eater, that one recent Macross show, and Kyouran Kazoku Nikki. There's a few I didn't recognize, but I think that's most of them.
Which scares the hell out of me.
Posted by: Wonderduck at Wednesday, June 14 2017 12:50 PM (e7jDq)
Whoa... your comments section doesn't seem to play well with Chrome!
Posted by: Wonderduck at Wednesday, June 14 2017 12:51 PM (e7jDq)
Man, I have no one else to talk about the show with, and it's so good!
Anyway, trying not to spoil things for anyone that didn't see it, but noticed that Andrew said a few episodes back that Diana had lost her magic at a young age and worked hard to recover it, and we also found she had a secret Chariot card in a box she seemed to value? I don't think that's a coincidence.
Posted by: Kian at Monday, June 12 2017 03:09 AM (WWV/v)
Go back and watch the original movie. Check out who's in the audience a couple of rows back from little Akko...
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Monday, June 12 2017 12:09 PM (PiXy!)
I noticed that too. I wonder if they were planning to develop it in a planned series?
Posted by: muon at Monday, June 12 2017 04:10 PM (vMYTH)
Either they planned it from the beginning (at least some of it) or someone on the production staff is the Einstein of retcon.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Monday, June 12 2017 05:07 PM (PiXy!)
It's been years since I saw the original movie, never noticed that detail. Will have to rewatch. They did retcon a few things from what I recall, like how Akko found the Shiny Rod in the first place. There's also no mention in the show of the Rod's ability to transmit power beyond the range of the philosopher's stone, which was central to the plot in the second movie. Which should be significant given the plot of the series. Everyone recognizes the Rod as Shiny Chariot's but none of the teachers seem interested in the various powers it has, which is odd.
Posted by: Kian at Tuesday, June 13 2017 03:35 AM (q08nh)
Yes, there's some things in the original movie that don't quite mesh, and some things that seem to have been left unsaid in the TV series.
Still great, though.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Tuesday, June 13 2017 02:31 PM (PiXy!)
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