Monday, January 22
I can't easily scan that inside page, but she's on the back cover as well. Just not quite so much of her...
Posted by: Will at Monday, January 22 2007 02:21 AM (olS40)
Is that supposed to be Admiral Spoor? And they're using her for cheese-cake? They do realize, don't they that Grand Duchess Spoor is the most powerful noble in the empire who isn't an Abriel?
We definitely need a report on these when you've read them, but I'm expecting a complete trainwreck. That neotenized art style approaches the sacrilegious.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at Monday, January 22 2007 04:06 AM (+rSRq)
It's a manga, Will. I have it right here. It's full of pictures. ;)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Monday, January 22 2007 07:59 AM (GaSFI)
Does the art on the inside match the cover art?
I'm wondering if the cover art was redesigned and produced "domestically" to appeal to some preconceived notion of the target audience.
Posted by: bkw at Monday, January 22 2007 08:28 AM (KhFAm)
They do realize, don't they that Grand Duchess Spoor is the most powerful noble in the empire who isn't an Abriel?
...who's also ssssssssmokin'!
Posted by: Wonderduck at Monday, January 22 2007 10:28 AM (CJ5+Y)
You have to understand that I haven't watched the anime. Only Crest has been released in Australia, and I don't have it. (I think it was out of stock when I did my big order in November, when it would only have cost $20.)
So... do I watch the anime first, which might take a while (possibly forever if I wait for the rest of it to be released here) or do I go ahead with the manga?
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Monday, January 22 2007 12:44 PM (GaSFI)
Posted by: Don at Monday, January 22 2007 02:23 PM (Xbxzv)
Posted by: bkw at Monday, January 22 2007 05:47 PM (KhFAm)
I could've gotten you Banner easily but I had no idea. Oh well.
Greetings from the land of hideously expensive inet kiosks
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Monday, January 22 2007 06:07 PM (JQ+S5)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Monday, January 22 2007 10:24 PM (GaSFI)
Well, I've been wrong (frequently) before. I'll be wrong again.
Being one of the few cases where the anime pre-dates the manga, I know my preference is usually to see the earliest material possible. Now I'm curious if the manga is a straight adaptation of the anime, or makes any attempt to include some of the material cut from the novels to create the anime. Until you see the anime, you won't be able to tell us *hint* ;)
Posted by: Will at Monday, January 22 2007 10:48 PM (olS40)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at Tuesday, January 23 2007 12:44 AM (+rSRq)
The story in the manga pretty much follows the anime, from what I can remember.
As for the art-style, I have a feeling that Steven would not want to see Banner of the Stars III, the 2-episode OVA that features even more rounder characters than ever before. And a disappointing story and very little advancement between Jinto and Lafiel to boot (though it deals with a very important part of Jinto's life, though).
Well, I guess the artstyle is to be expected. You can see the evolution of the character-design style as you go through Crest of the Stars -> Banner of the Stars -> Banner of the Stars II.
At least I have the novels to look forward to.
Posted by: Nick at Tuesday, January 23 2007 04:22 AM (Q0Emr)
That would be because it's the exact same edition.
We have a very good anime publisher in Australia, Madman Entertainment, but I don't think any manga is published here at all. We import everything. :(
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Tuesday, January 23 2007 07:11 AM (GaSFI)
The difference in style is quote jarring if you jump straight from Crest to Banner 3. I think part of the reason Lafiel is drawn with such a unique style early on is to enhance the "alien" aspect. She's very gaunt, and between the paleness of her skin and the shape of her head, they give her head an almost Grey-like look. The more they flesh her out (both figuratively and literally (not much has been said about how and when the Abh experience puberty)), the less foreign they make her features.
That doesn't excuse the treatment the Abh have been given on these manga covers.
Posted by: Will at Tuesday, January 23 2007 12:41 PM (SOx9v)
I don't think any changes in art style can be rationalized as being the result of physical maturation. Sobaash in the anime is older than Samson -- she's probably about 50. Like all Abh she doesn't show any sign of aging, and like all Abh women she's gorgeous. But she sure isn't round and cuddly.
I know about the story in Banner III. As mentioned, it's important mainly in terms of a major continuity change, but it doesn't really seem like it's a story I'd be very interested in watching. Probably the coolest thing in it would be seeing Atosuryua's new squadron training. Watching Jinto start crying doesn't sound like a good time.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at Tuesday, January 23 2007 03:50 PM (+rSRq)
I won't disagree that the characters as shown in the manga are a bastardized version of what appears in the anime. I'm sure they didn't want to spend the time or money to have the manga artists study the anime in detail and duplicate the style.
I'm trying to remember the details of how Lafiel described the Abh aging process. Didn't she say they mature to something resembling a human in their late 20's to early 30's, then freeze? From that point they live a large number of years basically unchanged until they start sleeping longer and longer each night until one day they don't wake up. I'll have to go back and see if I can find that scene.
Posted by: Will at Tuesday, January 23 2007 06:21 PM (SOx9v)
Posted by: Will at Tuesday, January 23 2007 06:23 PM (SOx9v)
BTW, The manga has a glaring error right at the first page. The computer in the anime says "the ship has been destroyed", and in the manga it says "the enemy ship has been destroyed" (which makes no sense in terms of the simulation).
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Tuesday, January 23 2007 07:47 PM (9imyF)
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