• PayPal appears to be going on a banning spree in the UK.  (The Telegraph)
  
  Groups targeted include UsForThem, which advocates for keeping schools open, and the Daily Skeptic and the Free Speech Union, which advocate for, well, skepticism and free speech.
  
  The Daily Skeptic is asking for any donors in Texas to contact them.  (Daily Skeptic)
  
  Because with the recent Fifth Circuit decision, PayPal just lit up the Sue Me signal.

• Alongside three very expensive new consumer graphics cards, Nvidia just announced its extremely expensive new professional graphics card.  (Serve the Home)
  
  The RTX 6000 replaces the RTX A6000, which rather confusingly replaced the RTX 6000.  Someone might need to explain to Nvidia how numbers work.
  
  This is very similar to the new RTX 4090, but with 48GB of ECC RAM instead of 24GB of non-ECC, a 300W TDP down from 450W, and a conventional two-slot design instead of the massive four-slot boards being produced for the 4090.
  
  Unfortunately it's likely to cost around four times as much.
  
  
  
• An unpatched bug in a Python library has led to vulnerabilities in an estimated 350,000 projects.  (Bleeping Computer)
  
  The bug is in the tarfile library, which has an explicit warning about extracting tarfiles from untrusted sources, but doesn't prevent the risk.
  
  Researchers found that there are nearly 600,000 Python projects out there that use the tarfile module, which, I mean, why?  And only 40% of them have safety checks.
  
  
  
• Amazon's 2022 model of the Fire HD8 replaces the old, slow A53 cores with the new, slow A55 core.  (Thurrott.com)
  
  It starts at $100 so you can't expect that much, and a 6 core 2GHz A55 is quite reasonable for light use - email, web browsing, reading ebooks, that sort of thing.
  
  The problem is that it still has a 2012-quality 1280x800 screen, and there's no better model available, the HDX range having been long since discontinued.
  
  If you want a small device with a good screen for reading books, the choice right now is either the Kindle Paperwhite, which is quite small and can't do anything but read books, or the iPad Mini, which is a decent device except that it's Apple and costs about four times as much as a small Android tablet.
  
  Lenovo's Legion Y700 exists, but is only sold officially in China, so it might as well not.
  
  
  
• The James Webb space telescope has captured a remarkably clear view of the rings of Neptune.  (NASA)
  
  It looks a bit weird because the Webb is an infrared telescope, not visible light.
  
  
  

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• Nvidia had its big announcement.  (AnandTech)
  
  Lots of stuff, but the most immediately interesting are the RTX 4080 and 4090.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  The 4090, launching October 12, has twice the performance of the 3090 Ti - from 40 TFLOPs to over 80 TFLOPs - while being 20% cheaper.  Which would be more impressive if the 3090 Ti hadn't been priced at $2000.
  
  The 4080 will arrive in November in two models, with 12GB of RAM and 40 TFLOPs at $900, and 16GB of RAM and 48 TFLOPs at $1200.  That's a significant difference; either the 16GB model should be called the 4080 Ti or the 12GB model should be the 4070 Ti.
  
  While the base 4080 has the same compute power as the 3090 Ti at less than half the price, it also has half the memory and half the memory bandwidth.  Nvidia is making up for that by increasing the on-chip cache from 6MB to 48MB (and 96MB on the 4090).
  
  AMD did that with the Radeon RX 6000 range, and it worked pretty well.  The options for doubling bandwidth over the 3090 Ti are pretty much restricted to HBM, which isn't exactly cheap.  On the other hand, moving from Samsung's 8nm process to TSMC's 4nm meant Nvidia had a huge number of transistors to play with - up from 28 billion on the 3090 Ti to 76 billion on the 4090 - so using five billion or so on cache was not a hard call to make.
  
  While $900 for the smaller RTX 4080 looks good compared to the $2000 3090 Ti, it doesn't look nearly so good when compared with the $700 RTX 3080, and gamers don't seem to be happy.  It's about 30% more expensive and offers about 30% more performance.
  
  Oh, an interesting point: They're PCIe 4.0.  Which means they'll work fine with my Bae case, though the standard 4090 might not fit.

• At least when it comes to raw calculation.  Nividia's selective game benchmarks paint a rosier picture.  (Press Start)
  
  The 4080 is nearly twice as fast as the 3080 Ti in Microsoft Flight Simulator and more than twice as fast in Cyberpunk 2077, for example.  Definitely a case of wait for the third-party benchmarks.
  
  That article also lists Australian prices for the three cards, and it's pretty painful reading: A$1659 for the 12GB 4080, A$2219 for the 16GB model, and A$2959 for the 4090.
  
  The 10GB RTX 3080 is available for A$1149 right now, and even the 3090 Ti is down to A$2399.
  
  
  
• AMD will be launching its own new lineup of graphics cards November 3.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  It will be interesting to see how they set pricing.  Being second to market is not always a disadvantage.
  
  
  
• Star Citizen - a crowdfunded space game - has raised half a billion dollars.  (WCCFTech)
  
  Over the course of ten years.
  
  And it's still not in beta yet.
  
  On the other hand, it's apparently fun to play and fans are happy to keep throwing money at it.  They're not lying, they're not stealing, and as far as I know they're not pretending an ugly monkey JPEG is worth a quarter million dollars.
  
  
  
• Decentralised finance platform Wintermute, which I have never heard of, just lost $160 million.  (Tech Crunch)
  
  And unlike Star Citizen they don't even have cool exploding spaceships to show for it.
  
  
  
• You can run arbitrary code on an x86 CPU without running any code.  (Dartmouth)  (PDF)
  
  The memory management and interrupt handling units form a Turing-complete environment even without executing a single instruction.
  
  
  
• QNAP has a couple of new small NASes.  (Serve the Home)
  
  Hardware looks good.  Software, well, it's QNAP.  Keep it away from the internet.
  
  
  
• Germany's broad data retention laws are illegal, says the EU.  (Reuters)
  
  And sometimes Europe just fights among itself.  Themselves?
  
  
  
• If you want to buy some floppy disks, time is running out.  (The Register)
  
  They haven't been made for a decade, and the one company still selling them in volume has about half a million new disks left in stock.

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• I managed to snag an Xbox Series X. The local electronics store - local to my old place in Sydney, that is - had it in stock a week after I handed in the keys, but only for in-store purchases. But the "notify me" button on the Microsoft store had changed to a "buy now" button when I checked today. The buy now button didn't work, but when I logged in and went back through the Xbox page I was able to add it to my cart and checked out.
  
  Since I am now moderately far from the madding crowd, I should have it in two weeks.
  
  
  
• I also managed to snag the cord for my new electric mower, something I somehow avoided for 15 years with the previous one. So into town I went for some pliers and electrical tape. I have pliers and electrical tape... Somewhere.  Easier to go into town.
  
  
  
• I've been hearing what sounded like ducks out the back of the house the past couple of weeks, but never caught sight of anything duck-like. Until today, walking back from the shops (which is quite a hike - there's a 400 foot elevation difference) I came across a herd of wild ducks crossing the street a couple of blocks from my house.
  
  So, yes. Ducks.
  
  
  
• Australian mining company Fortescue Metals Group plans to spend $6 billion on "Net Zero" investments by 2030 - including hydrogen. (Financial Times)
  
  Hydrogen is useless as a mainstream fuel. The energy density is terrible and it leaks through everything. Anyone pushing it as a fuel is trying to sell you something.

• Ethics schmethics: With sanctions set to be enforced preventing Nvidia selling high-end hardware to China the company has placed a rush order with TSMC to sell everything they can before the sanctions kick in. (Tom's Hardware)
  
  China is littered with mid-range GPUs from shuttered mining operations, so surely they could just use those.
  
  
  
• Intel's Arc A770 graphics card is coming to retail. (Tom's Harwdware)
  
  Somewhere. Sometime. Really. Trust me.
  
  
  
• Society is to blame: Nvidia isn't the only cause of EVGA's problems; some of them were self inflicted by trying to do the right thing. (Tom's Hardware)
  
  EVGA was well-regarded for having far better warranty support than other graphics card makers, but that of course costs money. And as the chart in that article shows, graphics card makers don't make money anymore. Nvidia makes money.
  
  
  
• Do not read this article. (Substack)

  Whatever it is I’m doing here, you should not be part of it. Do not click the button below this paragraph, do not type in your email address to receive new posts straight to your inbox, and for the love of God, if you have any self-respect, do not even think about giving me any money. There is still time for you to do something else. You can still unchain yourself from this world that will soon, very soon, mean absolutely nothing.

  Stop fetishising psychosis, as a friend of mine likes to say.
  
  
  
• Adobe's $20 billion acquisition of design collaboration startup Figma is likely illegal under antitrust law, experts say. (Axios)
  
  Does "experts say" plus Axios count as a double negative, or just as emphasis?
  
  
  
• Earth has 20 quadrillion ants. (Washington Post)
  
  They counted. Had to kill them all first 'cause the little buggers wouldn't keep still.
• 
  
  But first they put a billion or so in each iPhone 14 Pro Max camera module.
  
  
  
  
  That's not good. Probably more expensive to repair than a cut power cord too.

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• The case for my new computer - the limited edition Hololive one - has shipped.
  
  I don't have any parts to go in it, but I'll sort that out in coming months.
  
  One thing: The case is laid out such that the graphics card is vertical, using a right-angle PCIe adaptor.  This is common in the kind of flashy show-off cases I don't usually buy, and by usually I mean ever.
  
  The PCIe adaptor is PCIe 4.  The CPU, motherboard, and graphics card I'll be buying will all support PCIe 5.  I think it will automatically fall back to PCIe 4.  If not I will be quite irked.
  
  
  
• Google and Facebook now control only 80% of all online advertising.  (The Economist via Archive.org)
  
  Down from 85% previously.  The main new competitor is TikTok, which is not an improvement.
  
  
  

Tech News

• The Verge is the latest site to go in for an ah my eyes what where they thinking design makeover.  (The Verge)
  
  It's crap.
  
  
  
• If the polar ice caps melt we can just freeze them again.  (Phys.org)
  
  Would cost around $11 billion a year, which is a lot of money to you or me but compared with the insane cost of "Net Zero" is pocket change.
  
  
  
• Xroar is an emulator for all variants of the TRS-80 Color Computer.  (Vintage is the New Old)
  
  This was my first computer - the CoCo 2, anyway, which had a real keyboard.  16k of RAM, 16k of ROM, and a 6809 clocked at a zippy 895kHz.
  
  I don't really miss it because my second computer was an Amiga.

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• What does the future of AI hold for us?  Well first of all replacing the subliterate cretins who write for The Atlantic.  (The Atlantic)

  I recently started fooling around with Sudowrite, a tool that uses the GPT-3 deep-learning language model to compose predictive text, but at a much more advanced scale than what you might find on your phone or laptop. Quickly, I figured out that I could copy-paste a passage by any writer into the program’s input window and the program would continue writing, sensibly and lyrically. I tried Kafka. I tried Shakespeare. I tried some Romantic poets. The machine could write like any of them. In many cases, I could not distinguish between a computer-generated text and an authorial one.

  I've read GPT-3 text.  It's bullshit.  No matter the subject, it reads like pomo litcrit, because there is no mind behind it.  Indeed the entire point of GPT-3 is style over substance.

  I was delighted at first, and then I was deflated. I was once a professor of Shakespeare; I had dedicated quite a chunk of my life to studying literary history. My knowledge of style and my ability to mimic it had been hard-earned. Now a computer could do all that, instantly and much better.

  Most people are not brave enough to admit they are so bad at their jobs they can be replaced by a chat bot.

  If you asked GPT-3 to continue, say, a Wordsworth poem, the computer’s vocabulary would never be one moment before or after appropriate usage for the poem’s era. This is a skill that no scholar alive has mastered.

  If that's a skill no scholar has mastered, how can you tell that GPT-3 is doing it?
  
  To those who know nothing, everything is magic.
  
  
  

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• Sony has showed off a new range of PCIe 5 SSDs for PCs.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  Sony previously released its own SSDs specifically for the expandable storage for the PS5 (which has strict performance rules), and it looks like the company plans to keep making them.  Speeds of these models are up to 9500MBps, and capacities up to 4TB.
  
  
  
• AMD's Threadripper processors are twice as fast for developing large software project as Intel's best workstation chips.  (WCCFTech)
  
  Now, that's comparing a 64 core AMD chip to a 32 core Intel chip, so it's not unexpected.  But even the 32 core AMD chip is 50% faster than the 32 core Intel model.  The 64 core Threadripper has always been constrained by power and heat.
  
  
  
• If you click Show Password in Chrome or Edge and you have Enhanced Spell Check turned on - or in the case of Edge, the Spelling & Grammar add-on installed - your browser might send your password straight to Google or Microsoft.  (Bleeping Computer)
  
  Oops.
  
  
  
• Intel's NUC 12 Enthusiast is available for pre-order.  (Liliputing)
  
  This model has Intel's own Arc A770 dedicated graphics and a 330W power brick, so it's really, really not something anybody should be buying, particularly not at a starting price of $1699.
  
  
  
• On the other hand, it looks like the regular NUC 12 is also shipping.  It comes with an Alder Lake 1240P or 1260P CPU, slots for up to 64GB of DDR4 SODIMMs and an M.2 slot, two USB 4 ports and two HDMI ports supporting a total of four 4k displays, and four regular USB ports.
  
  These new chips are quite a bit faster than the 11th gen equivalents, at least for multi-threaded tasks.
  
  I'd much rather have a Ryzen 6800U, but I don't think there's a mainstream NUC with that CPU yet.
  
  
  
• Speaking of four 4k displays, HP's Pavilion Plus 14 can run two 4k screens via USB C and a third via HDMI.  That's nice to see given that some recent Dell models have been cut back and can only run one external monitor at 4k.
  
  The Framework laptop doesn't have a fixed port arrangement - it has four little modules that slot in with whatever mix of ports you want.  If you want four HDMI ports, you can do that.
  
  But the integrated graphics can only support four displays in total, including the laptop screen, so what happens if you have four monitors connected?  Answer: The fourth is disabled, until you close the lid of the laptop, when it is automatically enabled.
  
  That's pretty good.

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• Uber got hacked.  (Bleeping Computer)
  
  By persuading one idiot to hand over their password, the hacker got access to the company's AWS account, Gmail dashboard, VMWare management, Windows domain, security software, Slack channel, and bug database.
  
  This what we call in the tech biz, "bad".
  
  
  

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• Think I might buy the cheaper model of the HP Pavilion Plus 14.  That's without the OLED screen and with a slightly slower processor, but it's still a 2240x1400 display, and still has 16GB of RAM, and it has the four essential keys, and is 40% cheaper.
  
  The Framework laptop is inviting (because it's about the only small laptop that you can put 64GB of RAM in - and I do have a spare 64GB of RAM) but lacks the four essential keys.
  
  
  
• The Ethereum merge - switching from mining to staking - has happened.  (CoinDesk)
  
  On the one hand, they postponed it about two dozen times.  On the other hand, it went through without a hiccup.
  
  
  
• Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1, like the independent 9.9.9.9, is fighting censorship on multiple fronts.  (TorrentFreak)
  
  Though given Cloudflare's past form they'll fold like a damp tissue if someone says something on Twitter.
  
  
  
• The MOS 7600 is a microcontroller after all.  (Old VCR)
  
  This chip powered home versions of Pong and some other very early - very early - video games.  Since there was no published documentation and this was over 40 years ago, nobody knew whether the game was built into the chip at the hardware level (possible for something as simple as Pong) or a program written into the chips ROM, if it had any ROM.
  
  The solution?  Sand off the top of the chip very carefully - very carefully - and look at it under a microscope.  If you know what to look for you can see ROM and RAM and things like shift registers and logic arrays.

• Those sudden gurgling sounds indicate that the third bottle of drain cleaner finally did the trick.  Love the house.  The plumbing not so much.
  
  
  
• The EU has upheld the EU's 4.1 billion euro fine on Google.  (Ars Technica)
  
  Google was hit with the fine for anticompetitive practices in the way it forces Android phone makers to bundle specific apps, to make Chrome the default browser, to make Google the default search engine, and in forbidding any company with an Android license from also forking the open source Android codebase.
  
  On the one hand, this smacks of opportunistic looting of a foreign corporation by a corrupt and decaying bureaucracy.
  
  On the other hand, Google should have stayed awake during the antitrust proceedings against Microsoft, or at least read the CliffsNotes.
  
  
  

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• So what's happening at Patreon?  Patreon lays off its entire security team.  (PC Magazine)
  
  "Not the entire team", says Patreon.
  
  
  
• Patreon denies hosting child sexual abuse material.  (PC Magazine)
  
  "It's lies and slander by counterrevolutionaries", says Patreon.
  
  
  
• 7 Patreon alternatives for rats fleeing a sinking ship.  (PC Magazine)
  
  I think I might replace the as-good-as-deceased ZDNet with PC Magazine for my news roundups going forward.  Some of this stuff was also at Vice and The Verge, but they presented Patreon's statements as fact rather than as mere statements.
  
  
  
• Don't buy the Dell Inspiron 27.  (PC Magazine)
  
  I have two of these and they were my workhorse desktops from 2017 up until May of this year when they got packed into boxes.
  
  The original model had a 4k display, an 8 core Ryzen 1700, and Radeon RX 580 dedicated graphics.  With all that they did tend to run a bit hot and one of them started overheating in the last few months, but I could probably fix that with a can of compressed air to blow out all the dust.  (I did that before packing it in the box but haven't booted it up since then.)
  
  They've released annual refreshes since then but not one has offered a 4k screen and the graphics options have been mediocre.  Though with a 1080p screen and a laptop CPU in a 27" case they probably don't have the same cooling problems.
  
  
  
• The Ryzen 7950X will hit 5.85GHz - on one core, in Antarctica.  (WCCFTech)
  
  Base clock is 4.5GHz, all core boost clock is 5.1GHz, single core boost clock is 5.7GHz, and peak clock if thermals permit is 5.85GHz.
  
  That's stock, not overclocked, but unless you have amazing cooling you're unlikely to see anything over 5.7.
  
  
  
• Have I been trained is a search tool that lets you explore all the training data that went into this new crop of AI image generators.  (Have I Been Trained)
  
  About 5.7 billion images.
  
  Midjourney doesn't know what Hololive is, though.
  
  
  
• Meanwhile ERNIE-ViLG, the Chinese version, doesn't know what Tiananmen Square is.  (MIT Technology Review)
  
  And reports you for re-education for even trying.
  
  
  
• Superhuman AIs are going to kill us all.  (Vice)
  
  Probably not, but the paper behind the article does have a point.  When you measure anything by proxy, you are promoting the proxy at the expense of the thing you are trying to measure.
  
  Using college education as a proxy measure for success in life led to a flood of useless college degrees.  And Google's Pagerank algorithm single-handled created the comment spam industry.
  
  Similarly, current approaches are training AIs to cheat.
  
  
  
• After legislation by Texas and Florida to force social networks to make their moderation rules public (among other things) was delayed by the courts, a third state has joined the fray: California.  (The Verge)
  
  Be right back, making popcorn.

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• Congressional testimony from Peiter Zatko says that Twitter is run by idiots and infested with foreign spies.  (WCCFTech)
  
  Which former we knew and latter comes as no surprise.
  
  Also that the company executives have been routinely lying to the board, to shareholders, and to the SEC.
  
  Zatko was, until January, Twitter's head of security, before being abruptly fired and then receiving a $7 million settlement.
  
  
  
• It must be purely coincidence then that at least six "research firms" are offering money to besmudge Zatko.  (New Yorker)
  
  Former coworkers at Stripe, Google, and DARPA report being bombarded with aggressive requests for paid interviews about Zatko - with the clear implication that you had better be prepared to dish the dirt.

  The consultant told Provos that its analysts were assessing Zatko’s "personality professionally and socially," his "strengths and weaknesses," "motives for his whistle-blower complaint and any similar past complaints," his "need for attention," and whether he was a "zealot or ideologue," "conspiratorial," or "vengeful." She also said they were interested in Zatko’s "view of Elon Musk and Musk's bid for Twitter."

  And they were prepared to pay $1000 per hour for this, which is a wonderful motivation for discovering a previously latent speech impediment.
  
  How this reads to me is that everything Zatko has said is true and Twitter's management is in serious trouble, but I should beware of wishcasting.

• A long review of Douglas Hofstadter's Godel, Escher, Bach with no part IV.  (Less Wrong)
  
  I first read GEB when I was 16 - it was a Christmas gift from my mum.  Which tells you something about both of us.  It's probably heavy going for a 16 year old but the way it is written you can read it once and get the surface of it, skimming over the maths-heavy pages, and then come back to it again a year later an get a lot more out of it.  Maybe more than once.
  
  Also, Hofstadter is right about the nature of consciousness.
  
  
  
• GlobalWafers is starting construction of a $5 billion factory in Texas this November.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  Before you can build a silicon chip you need a silicon wafer - a sliver of ultra-pure crystalline silicon the size of an LP record.  There are many chip factories in the US but this will be the first new wafer factory in 20 years.
  
  
  
• A tale of two hardware firewalls.  (Serve the Home)
  
  One good, one less good.  And the only difference being the case - but since these are passively cooled, the case makes a big difference.
  
  
  
• China has formally accused the NSA of spying, which is the function of the NSA.  (Gizmodo)
  
  This may be true, in which case it's dog-bites-man except that the NSA broke Rule One of Spycraft, which is don't get caught.
  
  Or it may be China making shit up to divert attention from getting caught spying on other countries itself, which, well, same as above.
  
  
  
• They said I was daft to build a datacenter in Strasbourg, but I built it all the same.  It burned down.  Then I built another one.  (The Register)
  
  OVH has built a new, hopefully less flammable, datacenter on the site of the one that burned to the ground last year.
  
  Last year was not a good time for datacenters.

• Cockatoos in Sydney have learned how to open rubbish bins.  (Cell)
  
  Not only that, but the knowledge is spreading.

• Intel's upcoming 13700T - a nominal 35W part - is reported to outrun AMD's 105W 5800X in both single and multi-threaded tests.  (Tom's Hardware)
  
  This could be true.  The 13700K is a 16 core / 24 thread part, while the 5800X is 8 core / 16 threads, so with one core running very fast or all 16 cores running slowly it can outperform the 5800X in the respective benchmarks while using less power.  But also being less useful for many workloads, because games (for example) really don't like it when one thread runs at half the speed of the others.
  
  Also it could be using a lot more than 35W.
  
  
  
• Who cares if it scales?  (Better Programming)
  
  Me, because whenever someone writes something that doesn't scale, fixing it becomes my problem.  Often at 3AM.  On a holiday weekend.
  
  
  
• Quad9 continues to fight those jerks at Sony in court.  (TorrentFreak)
  
  Quad9 is one of the public, global DNS servers - the others being Google's 8.8.8.8 and Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1.  Sony wants it to block pirate sites, even though it doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with the pirate sites - it just performs lookups of DNS information from other servers.
  
  It's a pretty important case because at its core is whether you can repeat a piece of information that is (a) public and (b) verifiably true when someone decides they don't like the implications of that information.

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