Friday, September 12

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I'm having a discussion elsewhere with a gentleman from a European country which I will not name. Here's a snippet - my comments are in plain text, his in italics):
The way I look at it, is this: the concept of democracy has a number of elements which we can use to ascertain the degree of democracy. The GDR was a socalled "peoples democracy" which in our definition was not a democracy.

Yes, this is known as "a lie".

Another interpretation is not necessarily a lie.

This is not "another interpretation". Calling East Germany a democracy is a lie. There's no complication here, it is simply and entirely untrue.

From our point of view it is a lie, not from theirs. Why would our truth be more true than that of others? Because we have proven it to be so because the wall fell?

And here we get to the crux of the problem, the post-modernist fallacy that all points of view are equally valid.

Words have meaning. "Democracy" has a meaning. East Germany was not a democracy. This is a fact. They called it a democracy, therefore they lied. This is also a fact.

In fact, they knew damn well that it wasn't a democracy and the whole thing was a sham from the beginning.

Some people just don't get it.

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1 This "words have meanings" problem seems to be a recurring theme among certain ( liberal) groups of thinkers. It goes hand in hand with moral relativism, especially when they things like "What the U.S. did in Afghanistan was terrorism." No. Terrorism has a specific meaning.

Posted by: Daniel at Friday, September 12 2003 08:58 AM (Oc6V9)

2 Exactly. Though I take exception to this use of a perfectly good word (liberal) when we have a much more specific term (left-wing nutcases). Also with your use of the word "thinkers". This particular individual might not have the full disease, and might respond to a treatment of facts and differing opinions. He is at least polite. :)

Posted by: Pixy Misa at Friday, September 12 2003 09:10 AM (jtW2s)

3 This explains the invention of the Cluebat™.

Posted by: Susie at Friday, September 12 2003 01:53 PM (SM1Wt)

4 or the Clue-by-four

Posted by: Ted at Saturday, September 13 2003 07:51 AM (bov8n)

5 Where do words get their definitions?

Posted by: Ron at Wednesday, September 17 2003 05:53 PM (sEgIW)

6 At the Meaning Shop. They're having a sale right now - buy two meanings, get a free conjugation.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at Wednesday, September 17 2003 08:07 PM (jtW2s)

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